Latent Semantic Indexing and Google; One more time http://www.huomah.com/ Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:10:08 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2977 And I\'ll a smack too :) Wonderful post Dave, and it all needed saying! CJ Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:52:46 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2978 Hiya hun... thanks for playing along this weekend, there was some REAL funny shit we came across, good times all-around!! It seems like we need to say this every flippin\' year as the LSI/Google crap still is rampant out there. I hadn\'t really checked the state of affairs in a while, but after I did... the ranting came naturally (grrrrrrrrrrr)... we need to form a posse on this shit... :woohoo: Dave Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:24:33 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2979 Great post... I echo your sentiment on these supposed \"expert\" companies peddling software tools and whitepapers that will solve all your seo problems. Link exchange, submit your site to directories, get followers, blah blah. Best philosophy is to stick to the basics, make good content and focus on what users need to know to fully understand your topic.... regardless of what the algorithm includes or does not include, you\'ll come out on top. Claire Hawley Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:19:23 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2980 Hi there Claire, thanks for stopping in! It is certainly always important to remember the marketing mix and try to offer things of value - that goes a long way towards what search engines like as well. One of the easiest sites to work on SEO for are quality ones... quality products, services etc... Even content... links come naturally and one can focus more on-site and technical issues... As for the snake-oil and confusion in the SEO world on this one, LSI, it is my hope that we can get past such limited concepts, leave IR to the IR peeps, and work with what we do know... Will it happen? I doubt it, this has been going on since 03... no signs of letting up. :side: Dave Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:55:05 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2981 Okay I have to tell you I have been waiting to see this post. I am glad I have been watching. So it\'s true this is a case for dimwits and silly twitts. :whistle: lol Once again Dave a ranting you will go and yes, it\'s spot on! Gabriella Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:39:24 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2982 Hey hey Gabiella, how are we today? Yes, the twitter pop-quiz on LSI and Google was underwhelming... hehe... How are consumers going to know what to trust in SEO when many SEOs don\'t understand some of these concepts (and related history)?? I hope the post was worth the wait, it\'s always cathartic to \'go a ranting\' and getting these things of me little \'ol chest... sigh...should sleep well this evening! Dave Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:00:43 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2985 Yes indeed: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media-academy/search-engine-opimisation CJ Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:43:53 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2986 ..ah yes, nice find...they offer training in; [b]Latent Semantic Indexing[/b] Latent Semantic Indexing • An overview of LSI • How to write copy for LSI search engines Running an SEO campaign • Structured approaches to running SEO activity • Everything you need to know about landing pages, and how to test them Suhweet... nice to see it's not just the schmucks peddling it... hehe... Dave Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:01:13 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2988 Good post - thought I\'d lob this toward the more reading section: http://irthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/finally-seos-are-getting-the-lsi-myth/#comments. Cory Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:52:03 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2989 Thanks Cory, you are correct, no discussion of LSI and Google...or SEO for that matter, can be had without talking about Edel G. I had actually linked to a few of his posts in my last rant on this in 2007, (linked to early in this post). As I had linked in the other, I figured to go a diff direction with the resources in this one. It\'s interesting that he was on about the post Leslie did as that was the \'referential integrity\' that I ever so briefly touched on in this post :unsure: Thanks for taking the time tho.... Dr. G was always close in my mind when writing this... I\'ve only gone on about it twice - he\'s on a mission... Dave Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:18:01 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2990 You\'re quite right about the snake oil. I\'m currently doing a bit of a study on how much the view of SEO has changed (or not) since inception. We all know that people STILL harp on about keyword densities in some dark corners of the SEO world. I think one reason for the continued use of the term LSI is that people don\'t understand the subject matter at all - it\'s a terrifically detailed and difficult area - one that\'s been around for a long time (I believe one of the first attempted uses was in library categorisation systems). It\'s true, that given the index Google has (and this is a supposition based on their Backrub paper at Stanford) that LSI is POSSIBLE without changing much. What\'s often not noted is that it would be so horrifically slow and unwieldy as to vastly limit its use. Semantics yes, LSI no. SEO Phill Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:47:30 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc2995 Hi, I didn\'t know that this myth is still around. And so widespread. Bandwagon picking up speed? LSI - Latent Semantic Indexing - just sounds so fancy, there is \"latent\" and \"semantic\" and \"indexing\". oh wow. Abusing a fancy vocabulary is the sure-fire way to writing fantastic bullshit. It might even impress some customers: Google LSI Compliant? aha. That isn\'t even creative - it seems that the other guys are all selling the same stuff. Maybe the latest Must-Have-SEO-Hooha since keyword density and XML-sitemaps for well-linked 10-page-sites. Abusing vocabularies, like in this case terminology from information retrieval, has a long tradition in esoteric writing and postmodern philosophy. Dazzling the readers with bullshit - could work with SEO as well. I\'m waiting for Quantum SEOlogy. p.s. I really liked the Assholes Inc. :lol: LOL p.s. II: sorry for posting this again, it seems that half of my comment got filtered - single quotes in BBCode are not allowed? infinity Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:08:27 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc3002 @Phill - ah yes, good \'ol KW density, that one is soo sad I haven\'t even written about it... but truly another funny one. I heard of a KW Density Google filter the other day...WTF? You\'ve hit the nail on the head though, I would be ever so happy if people talked about semantic analysis instead of wrapping programs up in the term LSI - that\'s where the snake oil comes in...sigh... @Infinity, np, shall nuke the dupes. It really is sad and I\'ve been doing research/buzz monitoring this week and it is certainly alive and well (hadn\'t looked around for some in a few years). I do really like \"Quantum SEOlogy\" - hehe... that\'s a classic. We should write a post and see how many peeps fall for it... heehee Thanks on Assholes Inc... have been meaning to follow that up with a site.... maybe soon.. Dave Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:37:40 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc3026 I\'m only waiting till some angry employee makes public all the internal policies and algorithms of google. I wonder what they\'ll do then. Stancja Wroclaw Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:15:46 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc3156 Agree. I wrote about this a while ago. The article is in german, so I won\'t link. But with all the hubbub about PageRank dying what people completely overheard is that even Matt Cutts said that they don\'t use LSI for ranking purposes because it hadn\'t played out that well. I quoted this in my article: Is What Sasa von der Linkaufbau-Agentu Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:55:32 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc3157 Ok, your blog swallowed part of my comment. Here is the link http://www.aimclearblog.com/2009/06/03/is-whats-good-for-google-good-for-seo/ Sasa von der Linkaufbau-Agentu Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:57:09 +0100 http://www.huomah.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=420#josc3167 :kiss: Nice Post Informative One Thanks for great stuff Nimesh Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:22:11 +0100