Circle the wagons? Or 'Who gives a shit?'

One of my SEO Dojo peeps came to me this morning asking if I knew about the guy that was trying to Trademark the term; SEO. I said, “Sure, that Jason Gambert Guy right?” – Oh no… apparently he has some competition. One Clinton Cimring… huh, news to me…
Apparently he;
“…was one of the first published search engine optimizers (SEOs) and search engine optimization consultants[1] and currently holds the only trademark on the term, S.E.O.”
They go on to say;
“…he has had a trademark pending on the term since 1996 and it seems to be between he and a Jason Gambert.”
Aparently he is "well known in the search engine optimization[5] arena for introducing
new techniques or approaches to search engine optimization such as SEO
2.0 and coining the terms, SEO 2.0, reverse seo, and buzz keywords" - Someon might want to tell Tad about that...
Sheesh …. Here we go again. For those of you that missed it last time, just do some Googlin’ for ‘Jason Gambert, SEO trademark’ and there was plenty of commentary last time out.
Almost the laughable part of this is that many of my cohorts have recently been somewhat embarrassed to be called an SEO because of all the crap hat and bad publicity it gets…. So hey, by the time either of these folks gets the tradement (highly unlikely) it won’t be worth shit… right? I jest…
Read more of the claims here (please nofollow any links to this guy m’kay peeps?)
Do the Math
My buddy Steve mused this from the page;
- claims he joined the marines after 9/11 at 17
- so - 2001 - 5 = 1996
- 17- 5 = 12
- so he was 12 years old when he invented SEO

UPDATE
Barry (over on Search Engine Land) found the Trademark filing which leads to the actual Docs from the filing. One of them, titled; Response to Office Action,(top one) has this... (damned funny IMO);
"We are attaching evidence of the distinctiveness of our mark. The
company we acquired, The International Cimring Group, Inc., which
shares the same board of directors as this company invested a
considerable amount of money in branding the mark, S.E.O., and
associating the mark with the company. It is reasonable to trace the
first use and widespread acceptance of the acronym in question directly
to the company vise-a-vie the attached sample proposal. (Our acronym
stands for Strategically Elevating Optimization and not Search Engine
Optimization. In 1997 the service known as search engine optimization
was called web site optimization among several other terms because the
process of optimizing websites "offsite" did not yet exist because
search engines like Google that look for ranking factors outside of the
websites themselves did not exist. It is common knowledge that the
first use of the term search engine optimization dates back to 1997 and
all of the experts admit to not knowing how it came about but do admit
that the acronym S.E.O. came about before the term search engine
optimization. We can obtain affidavits from several experts if need be.)
The attachment is a sample proposal and invoice sent to a
client. The scanned images are scanned from the original documents
dating back to 1996-1997. We have retained originals as proof. The
proposal shows considerable effort in drafting the terms by the company
and attorneys. At the time the acronym in question was unheard of. Only
after a year of the company sending out thousands of these proposals
did the acronym gain nominal use by competitors. The company can
further obtain affidavits from former employees as to the number of
proposals that were sent out and the sales efforts expended in this
effort."
Emphasis = mine
Whaaaat? As one friend said, "Is that even proper engish?". So it's 'Strategically Elevating Optimization' that they're after? So an SEO company wants to trademark SEO, but not that SEO... another one. Bwaaha ha ha ha ha... this just gets better all the time...First, they say it isn't actually 'search engine optimization' then go on to explain what the term (dating back to 1997) is somehow also NOT that... So did we screw up? Am I actually doing 'search elevation optimization' and didn't know it? Man, I am confused...time to call me shrink and make an appointment. It is interesting that all of the attached docs as evidence (invoices, contracts) all say 'search engine optimization'... but he says that's not what SEO (his version) is.... sheesh... this is just loopy
In the second 'Reply to office Action" they state;
"Again, there are other synonymous terms like search engine placement, search engine marketing, internet marketing, internet optimization, internet placement, search engine results optimization, etc...
Until the term does become standardized, if it ever will, I have the right to trademark the term as our tagline Strategically Elevating Optimization, especially considering we have used it since before search engine optimization became a term. The only other person to register the term was Jason Gambert who we objected to as his first use dates back to 20070214, while our first use dates back to 1996 with my father's company, The International Cimring Group, Inc. a Florida profit corporation."
At least they aknowledge ol Jason and his kick at the can with this... Maybe the two of them can get oiled up and we can throw them into the ring together. Anyways, sound off in the comment peeps… is this just another false alarm? Or something we should be concerned with and fighting?
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Comments
This whole article has me so annoyed in so many ways. I'm glad he is able to get Google to auto-complete the last 2 letters of his name for him and that wikipedia recognizes him as an SEO.
I hope real business dont believe the shit this guy is writing.
#wikifail
Is there any other precedent?
Also - would that stand cross-border? We might be okay on this side of the Atlantic??? YAY.
Great choice of picture.
@Nicola we actually went through this once before with Jason Gambert, it seems they aren't having much luck with it. If we believe this fellow, he's been trying for 12 years to get it... that likely says something right there....soooooo.... =D
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And if someone coined that already, I'll just add a 2.0 on the end of it and call myself the only living expert.
Does that sound like a deviant sexual activity to anyone else? Perhaps it's just me...
Serious ass-hattery going on here.
o_O
Entered in Side Wiki:
Make sure you No Follow for sure!
Dude --Are You Out of Your #$@$%$# Mind Patent 77643198 ?
What cave did you crawl out of. I guess your scheme to patent the alphabet didn't work out. Nor the scheme to patent the colors of the rainbow!
I'm thinking of putting out a patent on people who put out stupid patents. I'd like use you as my proof of concept!
No ..No..I'm on a roll....
Perhaps you're trying to get into the Guinness Book of World Records another way. You should stick to the old fashioned way by dating celebrity, and making a sex tape.
But you would have to pay me for the right to do that. As I can let you use my business plan.
Gosh I love SideWiki.
Searchengineman
I'm Clinton Cimring. Been in the SEO business since Webcrawler was a SE and Rankdex came out with PR.
95 followers...pretty lame for the Doc Brown of SEO.
It sounds like something someone made up to fill the acronym's letters because they want to side-step the facts through the patent office.
Big 'ole Gaurentee link at the top, seriously...
And, the Google Analytics Authorized Consultant image at the bottom. Good thing Google posts a list of Authorized Consultants and ...[drum roll]... Search Engine Partners is NOT on it!
Just blows my mind that someone who totes to be such an expert is using some seriously
misleading tactics on the site.
"Criming"
definition:- an attempt by person or persons to lay claim to a particular word, phrase, product, industry, culture, planet, small moon, asteroid, star, galaxy, milky way or universe that has been in existence since time forget or at least a millennium. Person or persons are immediately considered unhinged and possibly in need of professional medical attention, or just a good kicking.
Do a whois lookup on the domain name sawgrassmillsma ll.com, which is mentioned in an invoice dated January 10, 1997.
Do the math.
Quote:
XD
I'm also pretty sure Danny Sullivan was the first to use the term SEO in the sense of search engine optimization, although I know he doesn't want to take credit. The reason you've probably never heard of Clinton is that he was in the Marines prior to forming Search Engine Partner fighting for your freedom!
PS I do have to admit you guys have some pretty funny comments up there...
I think that only brand new things can be trademarked before they become wide spread and the name needs to be original and unique. Otherwise words like flying could be trademarked out of the English language too.
This acronym is made up of ordinary words.
SEO stands for Search Engine Optimization. All tree words are in the dictionary and have been in common use for a long, long time.
It's not a product name. Plus this guy claims different words for it. He's out to lunch.
Vance
* claims he joined the marines after 9/11 at 17
* so - 2001 - 5 = 1996
* 17- 5 = 12
* so he was 12 years old when he invented SEO - LMFAO!
Yeah, SERIOUSLY Clinton, "Strategically Elevating Optimization" WTF??
These last couple of weeks alot of companies and individuals have been getting their teeth kicked in, and i'm enjoying every minute of it.
And the fighting for your freedom remark, have you been watching braveheart over and over again? Please.
Now about that ridiculous pug dog, I don't think purple is his colour.
From what I did read on this filing, it sure didn't seem to be going to well for Clinton, and I wasn't overly concerned... but after reading your adventure, I am realizing I may not have taken it serious enough. Hopefully as a few get squashed we can eventually put this one to bed for good. Thanks again on the GREAT work - we've had more than a few members get on board with donations and even sent $100 on behalf of the Dojo itself. Thanks for being a superhero (gonna have to update my SEO Superheroes post).
Oh and of course, thanks for dropping in with some further info! =D
I'm a junior at a top-tier university, definitely lured in by the prospect of getting great copywriting experience, and if this asshat thought he could e-mail me as the 'CEO of Search Engine Partners' (what kind of CEO has time to write prospective interns e-mails?) without me researching his name he had another thing coming.
So glad to have found this thread.
FRAUD.
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